What
is tapas?
“If you close
your eyes and concentrate between the eyes, you will get a wonderful bliss.
Slowly you will lose yourself in that bliss and you get in the state of
samadhi. If you remain in samadhi for twenty-three hours a day, or for days,
months or years at a time, that is called tapas.”
“After
continuous meditation, samadhi comes, then God realization
[sakshatkara]. This is tapas. If you are in samadhi it is
called tapas. If you are conscious of your body then it is called dhyana,
meditation. That is the difference.”
There are so many
meditation techniques. I want to know which is the best.
“What is your
aim? What do you want to achieve with sadhana?”
Self realization.
“For Self
realization you have to do tapas.”
When does meditation
become tapas? Is that just more meditation?
“If the duration
of meditation increases to about twelve hours then it becomes tapas. You
will get into a state of samadhi. Tapas begins when you get into the state
of samadhi. One has to do a minimum of twelve hours a day. Swamiji would
then bless the person. Swamiji would give darshan. From time to time he will
appear and give instructions how to continue tapas. So if you do your tapas
well, as directed by the guru, you can have the vision of God very soon.”
Can I get enlightened, say
through the blessings of a yogi, without having done tapas?
“When you become
enlightened you will do tapas. There is a difference between enlightenment
and Self realization. What Swamiji has achieved is Self realization. A yogi
is a Self realized person. He is not just an enlightened person. When a
person gets enlightened that person starts doing tapas to realize the Self.”
“If you sit in
tapas you will get into samadhi. When this samadhi stays for an extended
period, something like twenty-four hours a day, then God will come down to
awaken you. That will be God realization. When God appears to you in front
of your eyes, that is the mastery [siddhi] that is the
indication that you have finished your tapas successfully. You should not
fail in that. Some people fail in the final stages.”
Do you have the power to
grant enlightenment?
“Swamiji
guarantees it but you must meditate very well for one hour a day.”
If I want to do tapas, are
there any requirements other than the one hour daily meditation?
“There
is no other requirement to do tapas. What you have to do is meditate. After
some time you will get into samadhi. Once you attain samadhi then the tapas
automatically begins.”
Will everybody become God
realized? Is that the goal?
“No, God
realization is not our aim. First you have to reduce your tensions and keep
your path right. Then people can understand each other.”
“If you do
meditation, tensions will come down and you will be able to have good
relations with the people around you. You can be an example to other people
to control their minds properly.”
If a person decides to
meditate a lot and becomes Self realized, as Swamiji did, how does that help
the world? Swamiji decided to come out and teach people, but other people
simply want to become realized just to be happy themselves. Is that useful
for the world?
“There are
different kinds of Self realization. There are some who realize themselves,
and there are some who realize themselves and teach a lot of other people.”
What makes that different?
“It depends on
what they ask when they see God. That decides whether they are going to come
out into the world and serve the people or whether they are just going to
remain by themselves.” |